Rehan Ahmed to Surrey?

Any truth in that?

where has this come from.

it would make sense in a way in that he wants to break into the England test team and being in Div 2 isnt necessarily the best place to do that from (though that hasnt stopped Tongue), and that if we are going to play a spinner it would more than likely be someone who can bat as well

Coatesy wrote:where has this come from.

it would make sense in a way in that he wants to break into the England test team and being in Div 2 isnt necessarily the best place to do that from (though that hasnt stopped Tongue), and that if we are going to play a spinner it would more than likely be someone who can bat as well

He needs to be playing regularly. Does anyone seriously think that would the case at his age at Surrey?

Mind you, he's better than Jordan at clawing the bal; back from over the boundary...

adelaide wrote:

Coatesy wrote:where has this come from.

it would make sense in a way in that he wants to break into the England test team and being in Div 2 isnt necessarily the best place to do that from (though that hasnt stopped Tongue), and that if we are going to play a spinner it would more than likely be someone who can bat as well

He needs to be playing regularly. Does anyone seriously think that would the case at his age at Surrey?

Mind you, he's better than Jordan at clawing the bal; back from over the boundary...

Have Middlesex started up a new forum yet?

No thank you!! We should be developing our own spinners!! Not forever stealing other’s

Badges wrote:

adelaide wrote:

Coatesy wrote:where has this come from.

it would make sense in a way in that he wants to break into the England test team and being in Div 2 isnt necessarily the best place to do that from (though that hasnt stopped Tongue), and that if we are going to play a spinner it would more than likely be someone who can bat as well

He needs to be playing regularly. Does anyone seriously think that would the case at his age at Surrey?

Mind you, he's better than Jordan at clawing the bal; back from over the boundary...

Have Middlesex started up a new forum yet?

A site which is basically for MCC members has set up a MTWD section which is nice of them but involves staring at a screen entirely in bacon and egg colours, though at least I don't have to put on a tie to post.

There isn't much going on there to be honest and the discussion here is much more lively and for the most part informed. Even if I'm implicitly being told to s*d off!

According to Will Macpherson there’s no interest from Surrey in Rehan Ahmed. If he’s out of contract he’ll surely go to Notts like all good Leicestershire players.

The time for importing a spinner has passed. Between 2014 and 2017 Ashwin would have transformed us into a title-winning side. The elite overseas batsmen we signed during that period (Amla, Dilshan and Sangakkara) were instrumental in getting us the draws and batting bonus points we needed to avoid relegation, but a world-class spinner would undoubtedly have won us titles.

By the time we won the title in 2018 we had an elite South African fast bowler (who did not even count as overseas), and we have gone down that route since, preparing pitches to suit. We can't justify signing an imported spinner with England ambitions when we will probably only need him for 3 or 4 away matches a year for which he may or may not be available. Virdi or Moriarty are good enough to cover that.

He’s not just a spinner though is he? He’s an excellent batter also so would fit within Batty’s plans. He would clearly be highly coveted if available and if Moriarty or Virdi could bat they’d have played a lot more under Batty.

No Thank you, don’t want to be known as cricket’s equivalent of Man City,who have spent their way to success with Arab millions.Always been proud of our home produced players.

dougieginn wrote:No Thank you, don’t want to be known as cricket’s equivalent of Man City,who have spent their way to success with Arab millions.Always been proud of our home produced players.

If you don’t believe we’re known as that already then your head is well and truly buried in the sand.

This will only add fuel to the fire and make the situation worse!

Cee Vee why do spinners have to be able to bat,and not seamers?? Saying it ,doesn’t make it true. Never heard that statement except on this forum. Batters don’t have to bowl,do they? Absolute nonsense!!!

dougieginn wrote:Cee Vee why do spinners have to be able to bat,and not seamers?? Saying it ,doesn’t make it true. Never heard that statement except on this forum. Batters don’t have to bowl,do they? Absolute nonsense!!!

Reported as having signed an extension with Leics until 2016. Good (for cricket as a whole, anyway).

It's chicken and egg on spinners. If pitches are such that they are barely needed for much of the match (and are ineffective even on modern day 4 pitches), they are not going to be picked unless they can also bat. reasonably. If anything a stronger argument for that than saying your keeper must be able to bat, because the keeper is important all the time you are in the field. So it comes back to rediscovering the art of preparing pitches which offer decent assistance to spinners as the match proceeds, without going full Ciderabad where it turns square and bounces from the first minute.

dougieginn wrote:Cee Vee why do spinners have to be able to bat,and not seamers?? Saying it ,doesn’t make it true. Never heard that statement except on this forum. Batters don’t have to bowl,do they? Absolute nonsense!!!

never heard it anywhere but here? I don’t think we’re making the rules, we’re just observing what we see from the current Surrey selection.

Do we really need 4 spinners in the queue to get a game?

Of course there is a place in cricket for a top-quality spinner, regardless of whether he happens to be an all-rounder. But Surrey have chosen to place all their chips on seam-friendly home pitches, and a specialist spinner would be redundant at the moment

That won't always be the case,.and those of us who appreciate the art will just have to be patient. While it's working, we have to recognise that the club are vindicated. But trust me, it won't be forever.

It would be good for the game if he stayed with Leicestershire.

Benmug, where have you heard it quoted but on this forum.I not even heard Batty or Stewart say that? Can you quote me the person who have said that now or in the past ??

dougieginn wrote:Benmug, where have you heard it quoted but on this forum.I not even heard Batty or Stewart say that? Can you quote me the person who have said that now or in the past ??

no one did, but the person you responded to didn’t say they have to. They said he bats as well and it’s clearly preferable to the current set up. Ofc Batty never said it, but it’s clearly the way we’re setting up from selection. I certainly don’t agree either.

In fact, exactly what Jackers said above.

Benmug wrote:

dougieginn wrote:Benmug, where have you heard it quoted but on this forum.I not even heard Batty or Stewart say that? Can you quote me the person who have said that now or in the past ??

no one did, but the person you responded to didn’t say they have to. They said he bats as well and it’s clearly preferable to the current set up. Ofc Batty never said it, but it’s clearly the way we’re setting up from selection. I certainly don’t agree either.

In fact, exactly what Jackers said above.

Thank you. I thought it was pretty clear!

Jackers ,the anti spin bias shown by Batty is being successful,so far in the CC ,but hasn’t worked in the T20, hence 5 defeats against only 3 last season.When will the penny drop with Batty?? He’s picking seamers who are going for 10 + runs an over,and omitting a spinner whose economy rate is less than 7. T20s are often won or lost by small margins and picking only seamers who are going all over the park is not the way forward!!

Notts doing a Surrey nicking Tongue and Pennington off poor old Worcestershire makes a change from Leicestershire!.Massive gap between the haves and have Notts (stuck that in)and it’s only going to wider.

Terrible state of affairs.

we dont need to sign another all rounder spinner/batsman. we have Jacks and we have signed Lawrence for next season. I have to say though, that is 1 weird bowling action