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Post by SimonH Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:09 pm

https://www.kiaoval.com/statement-regarding-the-ecb-performance-review-update/

At Surrey County Cricket Club, we are aware of the concern surrounding the ECB High-Performance Review and the potential effects it may have on the domestic structure of County Cricket.
We acknowledge the release of today’s report and we, along with the other First-Class Counties, will now enter a period of consultation with Andrew Strauss and the High-Performance Review team.

When we receive detailed proposals these will be considered by our Board and General Committee and we will also consult, and take into consideration, the views of our Members.

It is already clear that there will be no changes to the County Championship format for the 2023 season.

We will update members and supporters further in due course.



You can read the latest update from Andrew Strauss on the Men’s High Performance review below:

Today we will begin the consultation stage of the Men’s High-Performance Review. This is an important phase of the process when the initial findings of this review and a number of draft ideas and proposals will be discussed with the professional game.

Our aim is simple – to have a high-performance system for English men’s cricket which enables our men’s teams to have sustained success across all formats, while having a thriving, future-proofed domestic game.

The findings, draft ideas and proposals – which are outlined in this linked document we shared with the professional game last night – have been informed by a thorough process including analysis of a range of important research as we consider how best we can achieve these goals.

Cricket is at a critical point with a fast-changing landscape and we must be prepared to be open minded and engage in considered debate if we are to move forward together and future-proof our game in the current climate.

The evidence presented in the review will provide the opportunity to have those well-informed discussions.

Amongst other findings, the research – which covers cricket across the world since 2014 – looks at the areas we can target to reduce the gap between the domestic game and international cricket. The analysis tells us that English players struggle more than players from other countries to transition from domestic to international cricket, how domestic spinners get less opportunities than in other countries and how overseas first-class experience is beneficial to Test cricketers.

I recognise that there will be a focus on potential changes to the men’s domestic structure, and as we consult the game over the coming days we will discuss ways in which the issues we’ve identified could be addressed.

Initial options for the game to discuss include a revamped 50-over competition and a smaller LV= Insurance County Championship top division to ensure higher standards and more intense best v best red-ball cricket.

Our research shows that the First-Class Counties play a higher volume of cricket compared to the rest of the world, while feedback from players is that a reduction in the amount of men’s domestic cricket played is essential.

Our role in this process has simply been to consult the best thought leaders in high performance and analyse the most robust data. We have made our initial proposals and findings and now it will be for the First-Class Counties to make any decisions over domestic structures – all we can do is provide them with informed recommendations. We want a thriving and future-proofed men’s domestic game, in which all 18 First-Class Counties are established at the heart of our ambitions.

It will be important the First-Class Counties have the appropriate time to consider the final recommendations and to properly engage with their stakeholders. The First-Class County Chairs Representative Board has therefore proposed the 2023 LV= Insurance County Championship remains at 14 matches for each county.

This will allow more time for the debate about the best long-term structure from 2024 onwards to take place.

Whilst I recognise debates over our domestic structures are impassioned and will attract a lot of discussion, our review and proposals are much broader.

The analysis has shown us the need to create more opportunities for our players to play overseas with proposals to elevate the England Lions programme and play a North v South red-ball match in pre-season in the UAE.

The proposals look at the ways we can better reward all 18 First-Class Counties for talent development, performances and other key criteria which will allow them to pursue their purpose and relevance within the game.

From an England perspective the proposals look at how we could evolve Central Contracts to offer more security to our high-profile players and better reflect the changing dynamics in the world game. A strong identity and clear style of play for England teams in all formats is equally important in order to inspire players and connect with fans.

We will now debate the panel’s proposals with many people in the professional game including the PCA, Directors of Cricket, First-Class County Chief Executives and Chairs. We will also continue to listen to and engage with supporters, including receiving findings from the Cricket Supporters Association annual survey before making our final recommendations.

At that point the work of the Men’s High Performance Review will end.

The final recommendations will then be handed over to the ECB Board and to the First-Class Counties for them to discuss how they can implement them.

Between now and then I am looking forward to a healthy and constructive debate over the coming weeks before the Men’s High-Performance Review produces a final report which will provide the game with a clear and well-researched pathway to sustained England Men’s success and a healthy, vibrant, domestic game.

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Post by VicNorth Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:27 pm

Is there not a conflict of interests in Andrew Strauss overseeing this report and working for Sky? Has anyone mentioned this?

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Post by guildfordbat Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:14 pm

VicNorth wrote:Is there not a conflict of interests in Andrew Strauss overseeing this report and working for Sky? Has anyone mentioned this?

Vic - that's a rather obvious but highly significant point which I admit I had missed and suspect others have as well. I certainly haven't seen it mentioned before. I wouldn't like to guess the outcome but I don't regard it as outlandish to consider it forming the basis of a legal challenge.

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Post by VicNorth Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:21 pm

I thought there was going to be a meeting?

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Post by Alex! Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:30 pm

I'd noticed that Kent had put out a strongly worded statement, and appear to be putting the discussion out to their members...

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Post by Jackers Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:45 pm

At the members' meeting yesterday, the Acting Chairman gave the usual "members' interests are represented by their elected representatives on the General Committee". For the first time, a few people questioned whether in practice this happens: ....."we only hear from these people when they are seeking election: we don't know their views on the Strauss proposals: how do they know ours?"

I suggested the General Committee need to be proactive and invite members to let them have their views (via a single contact). They then need to feedback on the views they've received and show how they are informing the club's response.
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Post by VicNorth Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:01 pm

I could also suggest that these meetings are not very well publicized.

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Post by RB Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:02 pm

VicNorth wrote:I could also suggest that these meetings are not very well publicized.

Not that I could have gone anyway (unless it was after play), but this is the first I’m hearing about it.

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Post by VicNorth Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:04 pm

I got in a bit late yesterday, but would have made an extra effort had I known. Activism seems very thin on the ground, despite most people I speak to having similar opinions.

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Post by offdrive4 Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:25 pm

Somerset put out a statement saying the current situation was untenable, I thought "why the hell did you vote for the hundred then, as it is the elephant in the room causing the problems."

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Post by RB Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:26 pm


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Post by Missing Leg Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:36 pm

From yesterday's press release: "The ECB Board and Executive acknowledge the extremely thorough work undertaken by the review team, led by Sir Andrew Strauss, and have endorsed the recommendations of its final report."

It sounds like Richard Thompson may have fallen at the first hurdle.

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Post by Alex! Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:47 pm

Thommo not really reading the room about the 16.4 at Awards Night

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Post by Jackers Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:33 pm

The mantra "the Hundred is here to stay" sounds as convincing as Putin continually saying he is going to deploy his nuclear weapons.
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Post by VicNorth Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:35 pm

Rory: "County Cricket is essentially for the betterment of the England Test team and the England side, so yeah, I agree it needs to be looked at."

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Post by VicNorth Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:36 pm

Alex! wrote:Thommo not really reading the room about the 16.4 at Awards Night

None of them give a **** about 'the room'.

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Post by VicNorth Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:37 pm

Jackers wrote:The mantra "the Hundred is here to stay" sounds as convincing as Putin continually saying he is going to deploy his nuclear weapons.

Or as scary?

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Post by RB Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:54 pm

The Hundred is locked in - through the broadcast deal - until 2028…

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Post by VicNorth Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:56 pm

RB wrote:The Hundred is locked in - through the broadcast deal - until 2028…

Yes, we know. I think the influence of Sky is not being talked about nearly enough.

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Post by Jackers Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:32 pm

No contract is unchangeable if both parties agree it needs to be revisited.

Viewing figures for the Hundred were down this year, and this will significantly spook the BBC and Sky. If they bomb again next year, they will get cold feet and they will be wide open to significant revision, for example assimilating the Blast and concentrating on one county-based short-form tournament to maximize their audience This is what we must hope Thommo will push for...


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Post by Alex! Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:34 pm

I was under the impression that the counties only agreed to it until 2024, and the ECB have a TV deal until 2028

Essex and Sussex now also coming out in opposition, as well as Middlesex not having any of it. With any luck these plans of a lunatic will fail.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/62999460

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Post by The Red Rooster Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:19 pm

You may be interested to kjow that according to a report in The Daily Telegraph
Surrey said the views of the majority of theirs were unclear,
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2022/09/22/counties-play-less-t20-cricket-andrew-strauss-reforms/

Since Mr Thompson became ECB chair he has emerged as quite a fan of the Hundred
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-11196617/ECB-chairman-Richard-Thompson-refuses-rule-selling-teams-private-investors.html

Steve Elworthy at the members forum before last publicly called for a cut of two matches from the T20 competition so do not be surprised if Surrey, who have been very silent on this, fully support the Strauss reccomendations

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Post by VicNorth Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:28 pm

So, remind me, what was the petition demanding?

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Post by RB Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:25 am

I think you could feasibly cut two T20 games but I don’t think you can realistically cut any more Championship games from 10 at an absolute minimum. If it was one or the other you can maybe swallow it, but not both.

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