Thirty six players ... thirty six ... then 37, now 38!

... just as well Dan Moriarty's transfer wasn't with immediate effect.

Does anyone know what's happened to the four players I marked as MIA? All four of them have been playing for Surrey 2nds up until Jun/Jul. Are they injured, not good enough, something else?

(Some of these may be wrong, just wanted to annoy myself by making a list)

Available
11
Amar Virdi
Ben Geddes
Cameron Steel
Daniel Moriarty
Dominic Sibley
Josh Blake
Luke Griffiths
Rory Burns
Ryan Patel
Conor McKerr
Tommy Ealham

Injured
5
Ben Foakes
Yousef Majid
Jordan Clark
Matthew Dunn
Ollie Pope

Missing in action
4
James Taylor
Nathan Barnwell
Nick Kimber
Nico Reifer

Overseas
4
Sean Abbott
Sunil Narine
Kemar Roach
Tom Latham

H*ndred
12
Chris Jordan
Daniel Worrall
Gus Atkinson
Jamie Overton
Jamie Smith
Jason Roy
Laurie Evans
Reece Topley
Sam Curran
Will Jacks
Tom Curran
Tom Lawes

Who’s Reece Topley …….?

Bhambrownhatter wrote:Who’s Reece Topley …….?

We'd be better off ditching a third of the squad as they never play for us, incl. Topley.

Someone needs to make this point at the next forum. I can just about accept players who we only ever see for the entire T20 Blast (Jordan, Evans, Roy, both Currans) but at this point we have simply too many of them, and whilst there's a big difference between players we have had who used to play first class cricket for us (i.e. those we developed, such as Roy, Curran x2, etc), signing Evans and Jordan was a mistake and a colossal waste of money.

At forums, Stewie brushes this aside with "would you rather they played for someone else then against us" and someone needs to say that's not acceptable.

Use the money on players who aren't liable to being called up for the Hundred - although we have been uniquely unlucky here with Smith, Atkinson, Lawes, and Worrall (who you wouldn't have thought would have been called up) - and stop bitching about "development" and availability.

We could/should have won all three trophies this year - our batting in the ODC has hugely underperformed regardless.

RB wrote:Someone needs to make this point at the next forum. I can just about accept players who we only ever see for the entire T20 Blast (Jordan, Evans, Roy, both Currans) but at this point we have simply too many of them, and whilst there's a big difference between players we have had who used to play first class cricket for us (i.e. those we developed, such as Roy, Curran x2, etc), signing Evans and Jordan was a mistake and a colossal waste of money.

At forums, Stewie brushes this aside with "would you rather they played for someone else then against us" and someone needs to say that's not acceptable.

Use the money on players who aren't liable to being called up for the Hundred - although we have been uniquely unlucky here with Smith, Atkinson, Lawes, and Worrall (who you wouldn't have thought would have been called up) - and stop bitching about "development" and availability.

We could/should have won all three trophies this year - our batting in the ODC has hugely underperformed regardless.

RB - do you know what Evans and Jordan are being paid? I don’t, but I assume you do given you’ve decided their contribution represents a ‘colossal waste of money’.

I thought both were good this season in the Blast and a key reason why we even made it to finals day - which given you think we should have won all three trophies this season I’d be keen to know how you would use the money saved by not having two match winners in Evans and Jordan and still being able to win even 2 of the 3 competitions.

Cee Gee wrote:

RB wrote:Someone needs to make this point at the next forum. I can just about accept players who we only ever see for the entire T20 Blast (Jordan, Evans, Roy, both Currans) but at this point we have simply too many of them, and whilst there's a big difference between players we have had who used to play first class cricket for us (i.e. those we developed, such as Roy, Curran x2, etc), signing Evans and Jordan was a mistake and a colossal waste of money.

At forums, Stewie brushes this aside with "would you rather they played for someone else then against us" and someone needs to say that's not acceptable.

Use the money on players who aren't liable to being called up for the Hundred - although we have been uniquely unlucky here with Smith, Atkinson, Lawes, and Worrall (who you wouldn't have thought would have been called up) - and stop bitching about "development" and availability.

We could/should have won all three trophies this year - our batting in the ODC has hugely underperformed regardless.

RB - do you know what Evans and Jordan are being paid? I don’t, but I assume you do given you’ve decided their contribution represents a ‘colossal waste of money’.

I thought both were good this season in the Blast and a key reason why we even made it to finals day - which given you think we should have won all three trophies this season I’d be keen to know how you would use the money saved by not having two match winners in Evans and Jordan and still being able to win even 2 of the 3 competitions.

I highly doubt both - neither of whom are centrally contracted any more - would have left Sussex if money wasn't a factor. I have been critical of Jordan's captaincy in the T20 and I continue to be so. Bear in mind he didn't even show up for us until the IPL was over and Sam Curran not only deputised admirably, he arguably deputised better than Jordan did. Exhibit A was the use of Will Jacks as a bowler. (As a sidenote, I think Rory Burns's captaincy in both formats has been excellent this season.)

We could have signed players who aren't Hundred-contracted rather than signing two players that we knew we were not going to see for the majority of the season. That's my point.

RB wrote:Someone needs to make this point at the next forum. I can just about accept players who we only ever see for the entire T20 Blast (Jordan, Evans, Roy, both Currans) but at this point we have simply too many of them, and whilst there's a big difference between players we have had who used to play first class cricket for us (i.e. those we developed, such as Roy, Curran x2, etc), signing Evans and Jordan was a mistake and a colossal waste of money.

I thought that Evans and Jordan were both developed by Surrey.

I think the frustration of many is easy to understand. Whether these players have been developed by Surrey or not, no member or supporter feels any real affinity with them. You see the list of great names attached to Surrey but are left to conclude ‘so what?’The fact Narine couldn’t play in the final actually made a mockery of the whole T20 set up. Personally I was frustrated that Abbott often came in so low down, particularly given the fact that I have viewed him as a key ‘team’ man for the majority of the season. I think one further point to add to the frustrations of many is the fact there is no meaningful cricket for the whole of August and it is no surprise that passionate Surrey members find themselves feeling generally annoyed that so many Surrey players are playing cricket on August, but not due Surrey, while they sit and watch a Surrey side getting annihilated by all and sundry. A further point to consider is one hopes this does not impact on our championship run in.

Ali888 wrote:

RB wrote:Someone needs to make this point at the next forum. I can just about accept players who we only ever see for the entire T20 Blast (Jordan, Evans, Roy, both Currans) but at this point we have simply too many of them, and whilst there's a big difference between players we have had who used to play first class cricket for us (i.e. those we developed, such as Roy, Curran x2, etc), signing Evans and Jordan was a mistake and a colossal waste of money.

I thought that Evans and Jordan were both developed by Surrey.

We re-signed them from Sussex recently, so I consider that a moot point.

Down to 8 fit pros now. Plus the 3 club players Griffiths, Ealham, and Krish Patel.

It’s disgusting - probably the county with the highest wage bill and we are being placed in a position where we can’t field a team. The championship too is fast becoming a fiasco. What other sporting competition sees you play some teams once and others twice?

Rory Burns, Jordan Clark and Ben Foakes are all now injured ahead of the championship run-in. Burns injured his ankle in the warm-up (again). You'd have thought the captain would have stopped that football nonsense. Oh, wait...!

What an unmitigated disaster this excuse for a competition has been.

I fear the words injured and rested are now used interchangeably.

Especially once chance of progressing was gone.

When I saw the heading change, I immediately thought of rabbits.

I thought we were up to Now 105. I've got Now 3, it's a rare one.

Chinaman wrote:I thought we were up to Now 105. I've got Now 3, it's a rare one.

Ha ha … I was thinking of that when I edited the title …

Nico Reifer playing for Northants 2s.

SimonH wrote:... just as well Dan Moriarty's transfer wasn't with immediate effect.

Does anyone know what's happened to the four players I marked as MIA? All four of them have been playing for Surrey 2nds up until Jun/Jul. Are they injured, not good enough, something else?

(Some of these may be wrong, just wanted to annoy myself by making a list)

Available
11
Amar Virdi
Ben Geddes
Cameron Steel
Daniel Moriarty
Dominic Sibley
Josh Blake
Luke Griffiths
Rory Burns
Ryan Patel
Conor McKerr
Tommy Ealham

Injured
5
Ben Foakes
Yousef Majid
Jordan Clark
Matthew Dunn
Ollie Pope

Missing in action
4
James Taylor
Nathan Barnwell
Nick Kimber
Nico Reifer

Overseas
4
Sean Abbott
Sunil Narine
Kemar Roach
Tom Latham

H*ndred
12
Chris Jordan
Daniel Worrall
Gus Atkinson
Jamie Overton
Jamie Smith
Jason Roy
Laurie Evans
Reece Topley
Sam Curran
Will Jacks
Tom Curran
Tom Lawes

Which other cricket forum could give you a category ‘missing in action’? Chapeau

KeninWestWickham wrote: Which other cricket forum could give you a category ‘missing in action’? Chapeau

Sorry, couldn't think of another category!

SimonH wrote:... just as well Dan Moriarty's transfer wasn't with immediate effect.

Does anyone know what's happened to the four players I marked as MIA?

Missing in action
4
James Taylor
Nathan Barnwell
Nick Kimber
Nico Reifer

I think I posted elsewhere, but maybe not, Taylor and Barnwell are injured.

Ali888 wrote:

SimonH wrote:... just as well Dan Moriarty's transfer wasn't with immediate effect.

Does anyone know what's happened to the four players I marked as MIA?

Missing in action
4
James Taylor
Nathan Barnwell
Nick Kimber
Nico Reifer

I think I posted elsewhere, but maybe not, Taylor and Barnwell are injured.

I think you did post it, I was just too lazy to split the groups into MIA and Injured.

I may have missed the club's announcements of what people are up to, but still seems odd we'd drag some kids out of the academy teams if we had 2nd XI players who are fit.

(Not against chucking the kids into the 1st XI at all, in fact I'd rather have Ealham/Majid/Griffiths/etc in the T20 side than the usual mercenaries; but would rather that we were doing it through choice instead of having to do it because the eighteen counties sold English cricket and our original first XI for thirty pieces of silver).